OBAMA AND THE WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. WHAT SIDE OF THE FENCE IS HE ON THIS WEEK?
Posted 11 weeks 1 day ago byBarrack Obama has made ending the war in Iraq a cornerstone for his run for Presidency. But what I find amazing is he wants to have all our troops home “ON THIS WAR ON TERRORSIM” by 2010. THEN, up the anti in Afghanistan "ON THIS WAR ON TERRORISM.” Has he been drinking the same water President Bush has? At the same time, Obama should really be concentrating as well as the Bush administration to focus on Iraq, get that in order and not defer media to Afghanistan. The only reason the media is attached to him like flies on poop is only because of McCain going on and on about him being over there and how inexperienced he is drawing attention right into Obamas camp. Obama is meeting with every state official in the MidEast and just loading his guns. McCain should should his mouth as now what is happening, the media is just calling him old and directing all their attention to Obama who can not say or do anything wrong. If you listen to old clips of Obama talking war and troops, he flip flops so much my neck hurt from turning it back and forth listening.
I am so confused.
First he is against the war, and wants the troops home as soon as he gets in office, then he wants to start a draft for more troops to be sent to Afghanistan. My feelings on this are he wants troops out, but let’s redeploy them. I thought we were not going to continue this Bush-made “WAR ON TERRORISM" for Bush's own greed and corruption all wrapped up in America's compassion around 9/11.
Let’s be honest here. When an exterminator comes to your home they kill for bugs. The bugs don’t have to be rocket scientists to know that they are on attack, will run to other parts of “your” country, your domain until the coast is clear and will come back unless you exterminate every month. This same would be for Iraq. We have our troops there, we have built a barrier between them and us and unless we remain in Iraq, Afghanistan or Disneyland for that matter, they will come back. This is not to say these terrorist bugs are not anywhere else. They are all over.
In lieu of this, what are your feelings on the war on terrorism, why are we there now, should we continue on for years on end as McCain profeses and how Barack Obama is handling his presumptive proposed foreign policies?














Thoughts
Its all a wash
Submitted on July 23rd, 2008 by PabloI know we will be fighting Iranians eventually some day.
I think it should be later rather than sooner. Allow the Iranians to literally put themselves in their own grave first. It will not be necessary for anyone to try and dig it for them now!
As for current US President, It would be who is best for the position of President is it not?
What is the primary role of the President of the US?
Foreign Affairs, Overseeing the military and appointments to the judicial branch.
What is the secondary roll of the president? oversight of the congress through signing of bills or veto.
Thus the primary function of the President of the US is foreign Affairs and running the military.
So between all the choices whom we are allowed to vote for, McCain is the only one I would trust with the safety of the US. He would still be a horrible president in general. But he would be extremely perferable to the nightmare horrors of an Obama presidency.
Obama is running with the idea that the President's main roll is domestic issues. Which is not true and most American are believing the lie that a new president would help them. The truth is it will not. The only thing that a president can do is screw up foreign affairs and make America weak and a target.
Do not believe me? Carter ran on simular platform as the current Obama!!! That's right! Carter who is the primary cause of global terrorism and the rise in terrorism to the point that America is a main target!
Carter who is known and as the worst president in history ran on the same things that Obama is promoting right now. Carter was a foreign policy moron and a pure idiot.
He was the one who did unconditional talks with terrorist by the way. Look what they got us and the world. When you give attention to terrorist and actuall acknowlege their idiocies, then you make those same terrorist and others who are extremist go out and do more terrorism to get morepublicity or get more concessions.
Its a never ending cycle that Carter started with the PLO that has branched out into all the other terroristic forms we see today.
With Obama willing to actually sit down with Iran to discuss their problems which they say is America being the great Satan and death to not only Israel but the great Satan behind the little Satan (Israel) America.
So Obama will make Iran's statements legit and respectible by sheer acknowledgement his unconditional one on one stupidity.
Yea America can talk with Iran. We have been doing it for 30 years. Just not in person. We have been using Jordan and Turkey for the last 30 years. There is no reason currenty to change it.
If we continue to pressure Iran and get Germany and France out of Iran, then they will fall like Libya.
But vote for the president who would do the office job the best. Which is foreign affairs and running the military.
The worst man for the job would be an Obama who has no clue about foreign affairs and hates the US military and has said time and again that it should be reduced and that the commanders and men and women on the ground are a disgrace to America because they do not follow the right path.
you can vote
Submitted on July 22nd, 2008 by John 2000however you like. But where do you get billions of Americans? Patriot Act was passed by Congress. Have you seen a secret prison? ... not that I doubt there have been some.
Tell me more of these rights you have lost.
Regardless....
Submitted on July 22nd, 2008 by buddyxlee@yahoo.comI'm not pro-Obama and I'm not sure if I'm even going to vote for either major candidate but from my point of view McCain, while not as flip-floppy, is holding the exact same stance as GWB and I absolutely cannot have that. I served 4 years in the military not for Clinton, GWB, our government, or any political party. I did it for a single document I swore to defend, that document being The Constitution. McCain is on the same position as GWB to circumvent the document that billions of Americans have died for. Sure the democrats want to circumvent the 2nd amendment but GWB has successfully circumvented the 1st, 4th, 6th and 8th amendments (By combination of Patriot Act & Secret Prisons). By McCain's own mouth he refuses to reinstate them. While I thank McCain for his service to this country, unless he is willing to give me back my rights and make America the land of the free again, where "law" actually means anything, I absolutely will not vote for him. That means I'll probably vote 3rd party, granted he probably won't win but at least my conscience will be clear.
Obama is not in control
Submitted on July 21st, 2008 by John 2000He is not close to capable or experienced enough to be in control.
This is mostly about opium pipes and gas pipes.
The same people who were trying to push WJC into serious war action, time and again, against AQ and or TB in Afghanistan during the 90's are very much the key players in BHO puppeteria. So really, Skye, please stop with the shock.
You gotta stop looking at things like there are really two very different actual parties ... more than just the illusion of two.
Go back to Oklahoma City Federal Building and come forward from there. You remember my little Chandra Levy piece not so long ago. She was working for the Federal Prison System until getting removed suddenly shortly before her disappearance. She was somewhat determining the people who would be witnesses to McVeigh's 'execution' which was to happen very soon. But the execution was delayed by a couple of months after she 'went missing' with about 60 pages of McVeigh related documents. The 1995 bombing was supposed to have been blamed on AQ but things went wrong (luck, intelligence, counter?). He (CIA agent) was 'executed' in July ... note the quotes.
So this was a missed opportunity to jump into Afghanistan as far back as 1995. USS Cole was another operation with the potential to drive attack on AQ in Afghanistan ... but that was Oct 2000, a month before the elections and WJC had been impeached for messing around with the young spy Monica ... and it just was not going to happen then. Besides, the ship did not sink.
Less than a year later came the WTC operation followed very shortly by Tora Bora etc. Meanwhile in latter WJC years, 'we' were bringing in AQ forces to Kosovo to help clear territory away from Serbia for drug and gas pipelines. It was not 'love' for helpless Albanians! okay?
Vince Foster suicide(assassination) is also tied into all this mess.
The mess of Clinton years is probably why the puppeteers felt they needed a nice clean blank (and controversial) slate to tie to the strings and try and finish whatever the hell it really is they think is so damed important. Criminal minds are hard to fathom. Also beware of Rahm Emmanuel. He too was very much there then ... is very much there now; and fishing for high position. Same old Clinton criminal enterprise.
They always find a way unless they are stopped. Sorry to be so mealy mouthed about this!
Its worse than you think
Submitted on July 21st, 2008 by PabloObama wants to send all the troops from Iraq into Afganistan plus add even more troops with his draft possibility because he wants to invade Pakistan and start a new front.
That would make another front that America has to deal with.
Never mind that to do that is illegal and totally against the UN charter and would most likely cost America its close friends like Britan and Holland and several former eastern block nations like Ukraine which is fighting side by side in Iraq and Afganistan right now.
Obama is just an idiot and is a loose cannon when it comes to foreign policy and how to deal with the war on terrorism which is half military and half Ideological.
Iraq is a major front on terrorism which shows that Obama has not listened to the commanders on the ground in Iraq. Which means that Obama does not care what is actually happening but will throw out his idiocies that he thinks is popular back here in America.
Although I agree that many people want to see the troops come home. It is unrealistic how its being spun.
Example is that some 65% of Americans wanted the troops to come home during WWII. That was a known poll at the time done by the Washington post.
But 96% wanted victory before the troops came home. I bring this up as this idea mirrors those past polls.
I would like to see the troops come home myself. However, I would like the troops to finish the job so that we do not have to go back to fight the war all over again! I know that the number of people who think like me out number the people calling for total pullout.
The media and the extreme leftist who want America to crumble and fall so that they can remake America into a Marxist state with a dictator is not so far fetched. YOu have Obama who is a Marxist who flies the Che Marxist flag and idolizes Che and Castro in how they conducted their revolution.
This is the same guy who thinks that invading Pakistan is something that should be done and that the Pakistani govenment has no say over their own country and has no rights over their country and uses horrid language which talks down to a government which is trying to deal with Terrorism and prevent civil war in their own country.
Pakistan is in turmoil because of three issues.
1. Problems with India and the constant border wars where inida and Pakistan raid each other over disputed terrirory. The fighting is at time very wide spread and threatens to spark off a full scale war.
2. The Taliban and their warlords in the border region with Afganistan along with the Northwestern part of the country have people which do not respect international borders. Those warlords fight each other over territory that spans both sides of the international border. They also sell out to the highest bidder if they think they can get an advantage over a rival. These extreme hard men use extreme doctrine of the quran because it allows them to do what they like. After all, Muhammad was a theif, liar and murderer who raided and used fear as one of his main weapons to rule over the people. Thus these Warlords use the most extreme version of Islam to bring fear over the people who are ignorant who do not own TVs or most can not read or write. Thus the people only believe what the hear and see verses what they do not know or understand.
3. The government is in transistion from a military dictatorship to a functional democracy. Change always brings unstability and breeds internal problems with some people who will take advantage. Some may try to prevent the change others will try to change the government from democracy into something else.
If anything, Pakistan is more or less like Iraq and Afganistan as to its developing democracy. Iraq has an older democracy than Pakistan. Something people seem to miss.
Thus Obama's idiocy filled rants are irresponsible and out of touch with what is reality. If anything, Obama should be working to improve the government of Pakistan rather than make threats of invading it. All Obama is doing driving certain factions in Pakistan for civil war to oppose America with the cries that America will attack and invade.
All they need to is play Obama's irresponsible comments to cause instability in a country that has been stable and has been working to become a democracy with America's help.
But Obama is just such an idiot and a loose cannon that he will more than likely cause a civil war in that region and cause the spread of terrorism far and wide beyond what it is now. Just because he is a blithering idiot when it comes to Foreign policy and being clueless as to what is the realities in the region.
On the other hand, Obama my want to cause civil war and cause the extremist views of Islam to spread. It all depends on what brand of Islam Obama practices. He is a Muslim after all no matter how much people want to say he is not.
All anyone need do is watch the video of him in a ceremony in Africa where he pledged his faith to Islam and to Muhammad. Something a christan can not do! To do it is to deny christ which is exactly what Obama has done!
His connection to Rev Wright only magnify this problem since as a practicing Muslim, he is able to join a church who accepts muslims as memebers without question for the idea of black liberation where religion is secondary to the rise of the black race over the whities!
So by all means people, vote for Obama and see this country be torn apart and attacked by every crazy in the world.
Not only that, You people will have elected not a black man but a caucasian Arab! A man who has only 3.125% black genes. Obama's children are more black than he is and his grand children as well as great grandchildren would also be more black tham Obama should they each marry a white person!
Obama is a disaster waiting to happen.
As for his so called ecconomic policy which the media just seems to say is the best Obama has to offer, Obama promoted it once and submitted it as a bill. He then voted against it because it was moronic and even he realized it would never work. In fact, no one voted for it. It died 99-0! No one including Obama who wrote it and supported its run could not vote for it.
And People think that this same said package now being called the economics of change will some how be different and help Americans.....
All it will do is raise taxes, ruin businesses and drive more industry out of America to China and beyond and make America an economic disaster heading down the path to 3rd world status.
Obama is nothing but a nightmare in action. The problem is that those supporting him do not see the slayer Obama who will kill the finances of the American people and really bring America into a recession worse than the 1930s depression!